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Written by antipodesious   
Monday, 25 September 2006

 


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I’m scared to publish this.

Times have changed. It used to be that in America I felt free to write anything that I wanted, at any time. Not so any longer.

E-mails are just letters under another name. They are letters that you have written to your friends, lovers, family or business associates and sealed into an envelope, affixed a stamp and dropped into a mailbox on the street or at the Post Office. Phone calls are just conversations under another name. Phone calls are just private conversations with your friends that you hold over a glass of port after dinner in your dining room -- conversations in which you might express your displeasure over the healthcare initiatives put forth by the last administration or the way they lied to the American people. Or it could be a conversation in your living room in which you rail against the current administration and the way they lied to the American people, their obsession with secret prisons and their right to torture captured people or their right to hold American citizens against their will without charges, or lawyers or judges, for years.

I honestly fear repercussions for publishing this -- being placed on a 'watch' list, being subject to special attention at the airport, or worse.... And I can’t believe that we have gotten to a point where I, or any other citizen, has to worry about that.

I honestly fear repercussions for publishing this -- being placed on a 'watch' list, being subject to special attention at the airport, or worse.... And I can’t believe that we have gotten to a point where I, or any other citizen, has to worry about that.

The current administration suggests that when we are asked to 'temporarily' give up our civil rights it is only to give the government the tools to fight “the war on terrorism”. They say that is why we should allow them to monitor and record our personal phone calls. They say that is why we should allow them to search us on public transportation such as a subway or to search us on a public street.

They say that the detainees in Guantanamo do not have rights because they did not sign on to the Constitution of the U.S., which grants those rights. (unalienable human rights?) Our government is saying that someone in the world doesn’t have basic human rights, even if they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time, because they are not subject to the Constitution. And we the citizens of this country cannot have those basic human rights because of people like those in G-itmo. I would almost say that is faulty circular logic, but I’d be wrong, because there is no logic there.

And of course the founding fathers said that we all had those basic rights naturally and that they are inalienable, just because we are human.

What is terrorism? Isn’t it violent acts to achieve political goals? When in our history have we not had terrorism? Wasn’t it terrorism when Timothy McVeigh blew up half of the Murrah Federal building in Oklahoma? Wasn’t the first World Trade Center bombing terrorism? Wasn’t it terrorism when the German’s had U-boats off our shores to sink civilian ships such as the Lusitania? Or when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor? Or when the British marched in our streets and blockaded our ports and burned our Capital? Or when the Tories fought to preserve their beloved Crown’s rule here in America?

Did we suspend our civil liberties at those times? Did we give up our right to free speech at those times? Did we give up our rights to be randomly searched on the street or in the subways? Did our forefathers give up their rights to be secure in their property? Did they consent to have their mail read by the government at its discretion? Did we all agree to have our phone calls monitored by the government?

When they intercept and read your email, even if it is done by some colossus of a computer, they are steaming open your sealed envelope and reading your private letter. And that is AGAINST THE LAW.

When they intercept and read your email, even if it is done by some colossus of a computer, they are steaming open your sealed envelope and reading your private letter. And that is AGAINST THE LAW.

When they give themselves permission to listen to your phone conversations, they are giving themselves permission to sit in your living room and monitor your conversations with your friends. And they did this without the consent of the governed, and that is AGAINST THE LAW.

I was a soldier once, and was taught that torture was an ineffective tool to get information. Aside from the fact that it was AGAINST THE LAW, one couldn’t trust information that was obtained through torture.

Wasn’t our country built, and our Constitution based, on the belief that all men have certain, unalienable rights as human beings? Did our modern politicians miss that class?

And, by the way, if the government has taken our rights away in order to fight the “war on terrorism," and we have seen that terrorism has been around for a long time, when do we get those rights back? Do they stay gone as long as there are Timothy McVeighs out there who might do something? Do our children get those rights back or our grandchildren? Will they just be taught that they could have had those rights, if it were not for the terrorists? Will they have to at least learn what rights their parents had, so they will know what to ask for when there exist no more terrorists in the whole world?

Perhaps they won’t be taught that they are (were) rights at all, but rather just something that the government gives people when it wants to.

Our civil rights do not exist so that a few criminals can get away with crime, though that does unfortunately happen sometimes. Our civil rights exist to protect the many from the few.

 




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Cato Craft (Unregistered) 2006-09-25 20:34:04

Antipodesius,
Well said. Keep up the good fight.
-Cato
http://RadioFreeLiberty.com

 

Some Guy (Unregistered) 2006-09-26 09:00:18

Good article. I am not in the US, but even in my country 9/11 has been used as an excuse to limit individual freedom.

We once had the opportunity to get a bill of rights, but it didn't happen. I wish we had one now. We have even less protection than you.

Don't forget that these issues are global, and not limited to the states.

Cheers

 

re: Some Guy
ShadowMonkey (Unregistered) 2006-09-26 09:08:46

Thanks for coming by, our international friend. You make a good point -- we should always remember that matters of liberty and freedom are universal. Where are you from that the chance of having a Bill of Rights was not achieved? -sm

 

Liberties in name
Soga (Unregistered) 2006-09-26 20:11:47

I liked your article on lost freedoms. I have a question for you. Do you think that freedom of speech ever really existed in the USA or other countries? (I am not from the Us myself but from an allied country). Before muslim fundamentalists were communists or whatever. The only difference is that the technology allows the goverments to scan more people now. You still have a lot of rights (the right not to be searched for no reason (doesnt exist were I come from), the right to have weapons (I dont agree that this is good for society but is a right that has traditionally existed in the US)). What makes me feel afraid is that the people in your country (and mine in a lesser extent) are not ready to fight for their liberties. What do you think would happen if tommorow Bush or the Army took over full power and declared the US under military law? I think everybody would go to work as normal and maybe talk about it over lunchbreak. I hope I'm wrong - I've never been to the US so maybe my idea about how people act there is tottally wrong. Thanks for your time

PS: not only Americans have rights or can decide for themselves. Iraqis etc are not animals, to me an Iraqi life counts as much as an American life (maybe even more as Iraqis die defending their own country from an invader)
PPS: have you ever imagined how it would feel if your country was suddenly occupied by a foreign army (Swedes???) that took out Bush and tried to establish a puppet goverment of Scandinavian Socialists in the US? If Bush is becoming a dictator then I believe it would be easy for a small expeditionary force from Europe to liberate the US. I'm sure the locals would help us... ;)

(my point is that good political systems may not work in different situations and that people should put effort to fix and protect their own political system and rather than messing with other peoples lives.)

thanks - sorry for my english mistakes

 

I'm afraid of having my head
Matt (Unregistered) 2006-09-27 15:33:35

with a dull knife because i drew a cartoon of jesus with a bomb on his head. no wait; christians would never do that.

 

Agree but...
Josh (Unregistered) 2006-09-27 16:00:10

I totall agree with the premise of the article, but the argument sucks.


"Wasn’t it terrorism when the German’s had U-boats off our shores to sink civilian ships such as the Lusitania? Or when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor? Or when the British marched in our streets and blockaded our ports and burned our Capital? Or when the Tories fought to preserve their beloved Crown’s rule here in America?"

Did we suspend our civil liberties at those times? Yes

Did we give up our right to free speech at those times? Yes

Did we give up our rights to be randomly searched on the street or in the subways? Yes

Did our forefathers give up their rights to be secure in their property? Yes

Did they consent to have their mail read by the government at its discretion? Yes

Did we all agree to have our phone calls monitored by the government? That's been happening ever since phone calls were invented, so yes.

A little look into the history books would have saved you from these mistakes.

 

Forgotten about Wilson?
anarchistica (Unregistered) 2006-09-27 16:04:09

"Wasn’t it terrorism when the German’s had U-boats off our shores to sink civilian ships such as the Lusitania?

Did we suspend our civil liberties at those times? Did we give up our right to free speech at those times?"

Yup, several people were arrested during WW1 for critisizing the government.

It's pretty funny to see white men getting angry over their freedom being limited. So used to doing it to others they've forgotten what it's like.

 

re: Josh and re: anarchistica
ShadowMonkey (Unregistered) 2006-09-27 16:44:14

re: Josh: No doubt there have been instances of infringement upon our constitutional rights in the past. The diffference I see nowadays is that such infringements are becoming a matter of policy (and sometimes legislation). Also, there's a great deal of difference between having a right infringed upon and 'giving up' a right. The latter has to do with the action of the individual to whom the right applies. These days a lot of folks are complacent about their rights, which is just as much a problem as the government stepping on those rights.

re: anarchistica: see above response to Josh regarding your 'giving up our rights' comments. About your 'white men getting angry' statement...hmm...you're making a big assumption there.

 

rights
slave (Unregistered) 2006-09-27 17:34:09

I would be sorry to be american. People in Guantanamo dont have any rights at all and my president just says its ok. On top of that my fellow countrymen think its normal and nobody cares. Nobody cares even if their own rights are violated. This reminds me a time around 4th-5th century AD. Beware of the barbarians...

 

Sound in basis...
Anon! (Unregistered) 2006-09-27 17:40:48

But not in fact, but none the less I agree with the main point you are making, which is that every human being on this planet has a right to a private life, not to be harmed by their government for pseaking their mind, and to be protected from individuals seeking to damage themselves and their property. We don't, which is really lousy. I am english, I do not agree with Iraq, I would'nt like someone to do that to my country, and I can not understand the unrest and hell those people are living through, but they have my sympathy, I critisie my goverment openly for this. I am extremely concerned by the events of the past ten years, I see what civil liberty we HAD attained over the centuries being eroded shockingly quickly. I see no-one NOTICING it. I see religion and the state being brought together in an unhealthy way and that also concerns me, in a varied world with many faiths, it is not realistic to base government and law on any one faith, it will surely cause division and pain, america is the perfect example of this. I KNOW my communications are being monitored, my partner works fo the government. You can most likely rest easy on that count, it's actually very unlikely that your are!

 

fao SM
youre being watched ahahaha (Unregistered) 2006-09-27 20:09:55

"It's pretty funny to see white men getting angry over their freedom being limited. So used to doing it to others they've forgotten what it's like."

It's not funny. And not all white folk were involved in any way with this nonsense. Just a handful were.
Don't go blaming white people ffs.
People won't buy it, it's old hat now, everyone knows its just another tool to keep an infight going.
Eh?

 

liberalism americas only hope
Jesuit (Unregistered) 2006-09-27 21:22:10

Good article. first I am not from the States and liberalism is used in the clasic sense(ie personal liberty). I see a lot of bickering in the states right now. The left complains of government wasting its money on the expensive and counter-productive military. the left crying foul of civil liberties being trampled on. The right complaining of useless and explansive government programs. And complaining about how much redtape and taxes exist. what I would like to know is their any hope that americans will realise that there country was founded and always had strong liberal values. shouldn't their be away to merge the civil liberty types with the economic liberty types. I personally that is the only hope for americans and the rest of the world.

 

Concerned Citizen
DWing (Unregistered) 2006-09-28 01:40:05

Unfortunately, civil rights are always the first victim of war here in the US. While those famous framers of the Constitution, the same guys that wrote the Bill of Rights, were still in office, they penned the Sedition Act of 1798, which imposed a $2000 fine (a lot now, a fortune then!) and 2 years in jail for anyone who spoke out against the government. What freedom of speech? Meanwhile, Lincoln did the same thing during the Civil War. Even worse, he forced people to pledge their allegiance to a swatch of brightly-colored cloth, our flag, which is in direct violation of the First Amendment (freedom of speech also includes the freedom to NOT speak). Even the Supreme Court, during WWI and WWII, carved all sorts of holes in freedom of speech. And we all know what happened to the people that thought burning draft cards during Vietnam would count as freedom of speech - that's United States v. O'Brien (1968). But there's a common thread in all this - it all has to do with nationalism in times of war. So just remember - the next time you see these "patriots" waving the red white and blue, it's that same patriotism that carries people away (citizens just as much as presidents, senators, and Supreme Court justices) into foolish decisions that strip people of the very civil rights that that flag is supposed to represent. The real threat isn't terrorism - that's been around since the dawn of civilization, and will be around long after the United States is just another chapter in some kid's history book. No, the real threat to civil rights is nationalism, that mindless pride in country that is created, embraced, and manipulated by our elected officials, which blinds the people - as in, "We the People" of this country who are the real source of all governmental powers - to abuses of the trust that we've placed in those elected officials. Think about that the next time you see someone with the flag on their car - and wonder just what they're so proud of.

 

Blake (Unregistered) 2006-09-28 03:41:07

Good points..very VERY good points. It was also terrorism when the CIA installed the Shah of Iran in 1953, Suharto in 1967, Pinochet in 1973...when the U.S. attacked Panama, The Dominican Republic, Vietnam, Grenada...when the U.S. helped to overthrow the Sandinistas in Nicaragua, Jacobo Arbenz in Guatemala, Noor Mohammad Tareki in Afghanistan.... Now mothers have to drink their own breastmilk to get onto a plane...now the police don't need to knock to enter your house, now your internet searches are being handed over, now your phones are wiretapped, now they're developing a blimps that will constantly watch EVERYTHING going on in these borders at ALL TIMES...government's always been doing stuff they shouldn't...but now the guns are turned on us.

 

Re: Blake
DWing (Unregistered) 2006-09-28 08:27:34

That's not an entirely new twist - the fact that the guns, cameras, wiretaps, and spies are turned on the American citizens - but it is, for most of us, the first time in our lifetimes. If you happened to be of Japanese descent here in America back in WWII, you'd certainly have a different view of how noble America is about rights and freedoms.
But yeah, while our history books tell us that in between WWI, WWII, Vietnam, and Iraq, America was at peace, that's not true at all. I'm not sure we've had peace since the beginning of the 20th century, probably the Civil War. We've been waging mini-wars, wars by proxy, staging coups, doing black ops, propping up dictators, and all sorts of things - sometimes quietly, sometimes not so, but very rarely with the approval, consent, or even knowledge of the American people. And they keep telling us it's a democracy - hah.

 

RE: Re: Blake
Blake (Unregistered) 2006-09-28 21:20:17

Exactly. That's what I was trying to say. You make a very good point. We use everything...to get our way..placing an embargo on Cuba and hurting their economy, taking Hawaii, the Phillipines, Cuba (for a while) under our control for our own benefit. Refuse to buy New Zealand's butter because they refused to let U.S. nuclear attack submarines have access to their ports...we went through the KKK and "Yellow Peril"...we say that we have to stop Iran when we have 160 nuclear plants...Iran is TRYING to build ONE...who's the bigger threat to world security?

 

Re: So funny to hear white men
Kookle (Unregistered) 2006-09-28 23:24:19

It actually IS funny/strange and funny/laughable to hear a white guy ranting about his civil rights being taken away. Doesn't matter to me whether most white people agree or not. For us "minorities", it's pretty damned ironic and funny.

As for the McVeighs in America who terrorize people of color, you don't see THEM being rounded up and put in pig pens, do ya? Nope, and you won't see it.

Losing civil liberties/rights is only "trajic" when it happens to folks from the majority here in America. It's "probably something THEY did" when it happens to one of us. So, SOME don't "buy" the race argument anymore. That doesn't make it any less salient to the REST of us.

 

Is it funny or just sad?
DWing (Unregistered) 2006-09-29 10:11:58

Well, if you want to call if funny that white men complain about their rights being taken away, you almost have a point. I think a more blatant example of one-sidedness was the famous Puritan writer/lawyer John Winthrop, who justified taking land from Indians by saying that his god had sent "miraculous plagues" that had wiped out the Indians - and later denounced the measles epidemic that decimated his village as a devilish tragedy. Now that's bad.

But, Kookle, this isn't that funny after all. Because it's not just whites that are losing civil rights - today, it's everyone, black, white, yellow, red, and everything in between. This is a blanket statement that covers all American citizens, regardless of race, color, or creed - we're all being spied upon, and we're all subject to some paranoid bureaucrat calling us terrorists, on the basis of nothing more than suspicion, and having habeas corpus denied or due process suspended.

And no, Timothy McVeigh wasn't just "rounded up and put in [a] pig pen," he was executed. I'd say that was severe enough. Is there still racial inequity? Sadly, yes. But these days, folks of all colors are offended by the miscarriages of justice, like Brown v Mississippi (1936 - if you want to get good and pissed, read up at http://www.injusticeline.com/brown.html), and that means there's really hope for Martin Luther King's Dream. But finding racial equality by making everyone guilty until proven innocent, by making everyone constantly under investigation, by suspending the basic rights of all Americans, isn't the way to do it.

 

re: DWing
ShadowMonkey (Unregistered) 2006-09-29 10:44:50

DWing: can you contact me via the "Contact Us" link on the left-hand menubar? ...just an off-line question for you.... Thanks, -ShadowMonkey

 

right on
Deum (Unregistered) 2006-09-29 18:55:41

Good article, but I belive that there are a few inaccuracies with your argument. Next time, you should put more info and should make a more convincing argument. Otherwise, good job and keep up the fight.

 

wasn't just about white folks
antipodesious (Unregistered) 2006-09-30 07:07:54

I didn't mean to whine about just white people's rights being taken. Sorry if it came across that way. I meant all Americans, regardless of race, religion, creed or football team.

As for our foreign guests to this site, I believe that all humans SHOULD have the same civil rights that Americans thought that we had...as long as they are willing to fight and die for those same rights, and if they agree to respect the rights of others. Until recently, I thought that America, despite indescretions of the past, was about ALL human rights. At least I, and many, many, other Americans, are. Yes, individuals and groups have made many violations, but we should not allow our govt to move backwards without comment.

 

Who told you this was a Democr
Tomcat (Unregistered) 2006-10-01 08:49:15

The United States of America was never set up as a democracy. We are a Republic. The rule of law, not of the people (when was the last time we voted on any important matter?)

Sounds pretty noble. All equal under the law . . . poetic!

Who writes the laws? Better yet, bills are voted in to law by politicians who are not required to read the bill or to know exactly which provisions and ammendments are included.
http://www.downsizedc.org

 

RE: antipodesious
Blake (Unregistered) 2006-10-03 01:12:47

It'd be nice if it were that way, wouldn't it? I'd LOVE to say that it was...I'm American and I'm completely for all human rights. Equality regardless of race, religion, sexual orientation, gender...etc. All of it...but my...OUR government is not, and they never have been. Those that founded the country owned slaves that were regarded as cattle (Thomas Jefferson didn't even let his OWN children-that he had with a slave, mind you-be free until their 21st birthdays.) Lincoln and habeas corpus (and the fact that he was not racist, but more into reuniting the nation than abolishing slavery. If Lincoln had been presented with the offer of having the south back in nation as long as slavery was kept...he'd have jumped at it. Also, the South had a constitutional right to secede, thus meaning that the United States INVADED the Confederacy.)

Kennedy, Ford, Carter...supported dictators (the last two aided Indonesia in their attack on East Timor with supplies.) Truman, Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, Bush, Bush, Johnson...all war criminals. T. Roosevelt was an insane mo fo, FDR...Japanese-American camps, anyone? Jackson slaughtered Native Americans, Wilson was a white supremacist and seemed to love invading countries...the list is as long as you want it to be.

We've installed and supported dictators consistently, we've gone through scandal after scandal...I mean, we've even had NAZIS working for the government!!!

Human Rights....nice concept....in this country, not a reality or even a concern.

 

re:Blake
ShadowMonkey (Unregistered) 2006-10-03 01:31:18

Blake,

Thanks for taking the time to comment here on ShadowMonkey. One of the points that I've tried to make several times throughout the site (and that I think antipodesious would agree is applicable to both his story and your comment) is summed up by the following:

"There is a profound and fundamental difference between an Executive engaging in shadowy acts of lawlessness and abuses of power on the one hand, and, on the other, having the American people, through their Congress, endorse, embrace and legalize that behavior out in the open, with barely a peep of real protest. ...our laws are about to explicitly codify one of the most dangerous and defining powers of tyranny -- one of the very powers this country was founded in order to prevent."

I found that well-written summary of the concept over on " Unclaimed Territory - by Glenn Greenwald"...complete original at: http://tinyurl.com/n4578

 

Interesting
Dylboz (Unregistered) 2006-10-03 21:19:32

That the foreign guy did not "agree" that owning weapons was "god for society." Yet, he supports the Iraqi's in their fight against U.S. aggression and occupation.

Exactly how are people supposed to fight for their liberties and basic human rights against the oppressors when they are the only one's with the guns?

Get it? The Second Amendment was SUPPOSED to insure all the others. Thank the anti-Fedaeralists for that one, as well as the other 9 Amendments, but remember Lysander Spooner, "That (The Constitution) has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist."

The right to own weapons in defense of life, liberty and property against aggressors of any stripe is a basic and fundamental human right. Whether it's good for "society" is irrelevant, given that it's not only good, but necessary for the INDIVIDUALS that make up that society, inorder that they not be subject to the tyrrany of those with access to weapons.

 

Oops..
Dylboz (Unregistered) 2006-10-03 21:23:23

That's supposed to read "good for society."

And that "insure" might ought to be "ensure," but my enthusiasm often outpaces my grammar. That should apply to any other mistakes you find above as well.

 

Re: Dylboz
Blake (Unregistered) 2006-10-04 21:12:58

Um...I get what you're saying, but I think if he's against weapons, he's against EVERYONE having weapons. Meaning that the Iraqis wouldn't really have anything to defend themselves FROM. If that is the case, I fully agree with him. I don't believe that weapons are good for society...I believe that anything that has the sole purpose of killing or hurting another life is evil. And, quite honestly, without weapons...the world would be a whole lot better off.

 

DWing
Blake (Unregistered) 2006-10-04 21:16:40

Sorry, I know that this is old news but I remember you saying about the guns being turned on the US citizens. I just wanted to make clear that I didn't mean to neglect the Japanese-Americans put in concentration camps, nor the several scholars thought to be "communist" and blacklisted from 1945-1955, nor the Muslims like Malcolm X, or the African-Americans like Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks, I was merely stating that this was a new feeling for this generation, to be antagonized in your own country and to have it so widespread.

 

Not new, just new for us
DarqueWing (Unregistered) 2006-10-09 16:37:04

That's exactly right, Blake, and precisely the point I was trying to make: that so many abuses of power are not new to the country, just new to this generation. I don't know about you folks, but I wasn't personally there for the Sedition Acts or the Civil Rights movement, or any of the other examples brought up in this thread. Instead, what our generation has learned, through the filter of public education, is that America is supposed to be all about rights and freedom, that we fought to free the slaves, and so on. Not exactly accurate, but that's what we were raised to believe.

Now, our government is putting the lie to all that flowery speech of freedom and civil rights. Soon, the Fourth Amendment and its restrictions on search and seizure, and the Fifth's guarantee of due process, could be so porous as to be irrelevant. Secret courts, secret trials, secret prisons - these are some of the very same reasons that those famous founding fathers fought for independence.

But, like we've established, this isn't new to America - it's just new to those of us who weren't there for the more public displays of the first 200 years of American history. So the question is, how are we - my generation, 30s and under - going to respond? We didn't fight for any of those other causes, because by the time we were even in grade school, the Civil Rights movement was already a chapter in history books. We don't know, firsthand, the kind of losses a fight like that will demand. Will we have the guts? I don't know. I'm somewhat pessimistic, though. After all, it was my own demographic that was supposed to put Al Gore in office - and instead, under-30 voters had some measly voting rate in 2004. If we could just turn off Cartoon Network long enough to vote - long enough to at least notice - then we might have the fortitude to demand our government to preserve and comply with the Constitution. But if those 2004 voting figures are any indication, I'm not sure enough people will put down the Playstation controllers long enough to make much of a difference. As bad as a tyrannical government might be, it's not as bad as our own apathy and ignorance.

Previous generations have risen above themselves to accomplish incredible feats - the defeat of the Nazi war machine, the enforcement of Equal Protection, the achievements of Civil Rights - but can we?

I don't know.

 

Great Post
windyridge (Unregistered) 2007-11-24 22:59:14

Excellent post. I sometimes envision dark sunglassed men taking me away when I write political stuff or send emails castigating this administration. I shocked myself when I realized I had those thoughts. WHAT has this country become!?
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